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		<title>By: Martim</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-14174</link>
		<dc:creator>Martim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rob Rayburn, your comment did exactly what I needed and it&#039;s much simpler method that using the steps described in the post (especially when you have 56 icons, all with at least 3 .png files). 

However, none of the profiles mentioned here actually reflect the true color of the .png I was using. The Generic RGB comes pretty close, but the icon doesn&#039;t end up with the same color as the original. It may just be me, but I found that the profile that gave the EXACT right color was the Color LCD profile. Again, it may just be me, but you might want to try that alternative as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rob Rayburn, your comment did exactly what I needed and it&#8217;s much simpler method that using the steps described in the post (especially when you have 56 icons, all with at least 3 .png files). </p>
<p>However, none of the profiles mentioned here actually reflect the true color of the .png I was using. The Generic RGB comes pretty close, but the icon doesn&#8217;t end up with the same color as the original. It may just be me, but I found that the profile that gave the EXACT right color was the Color LCD profile. Again, it may just be me, but you might want to try that alternative as well.</p>
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		<title>By: David Keegan</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-14162</link>
		<dc:creator>David Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 21:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking into this for my app ChopShop and discovered that Icon Composer on Lion does a much better job at preserving colors: http://cl.ly/DLTp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking into this for my app ChopShop and discovered that Icon Composer on Lion does a much better job at preserving colors: <a href="http://cl.ly/DLTp" rel="nofollow">http://cl.ly/DLTp</a></p>
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		<title>By: chris willis</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-13573</link>
		<dc:creator>chris willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article and comments. Thanks, Cabel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article and comments. Thanks, Cabel.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9720</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 10:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would like to recommend to fix the color change problem in your apps (Coda 1.6.12 &amp; Transmit 3.* on OS X 10.6.4). See here for the Coda example. http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9809/codal.jpg 

Looks just awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would like to recommend to fix the color change problem in your apps (Coda 1.6.12 &amp; Transmit 3.* on OS X 10.6.4). See here for the Coda example. <a href="http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9809/codal.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9809/codal.jpg</a> </p>
<p>Looks just awful.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9633</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this. My icon was much lighter than I expected. &quot;What the heck?&quot; I thought. I typed &quot;icns lighter than original mac icon&quot; into Google. Was brought here. Followed the steps. Everything was well. The internet is a beautiful thing. If only developing an app was that straightforward...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this. My icon was much lighter than I expected. &#8220;What the heck?&#8221; I thought. I typed &#8220;icns lighter than original mac icon&#8221; into Google. Was brought here. Followed the steps. Everything was well. The internet is a beautiful thing. If only developing an app was that straightforward&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Willman</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9445</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Willman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 19:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, just dropping this in since I didn&#039;t see anyone mention it:

Snow Leopard has switched it&#039;s gamma to 2.2 from the previous 1.8. Windows has always used 2.2 as well as a lot of post production software. Apple has held out for many years, but finally conformed to make it easier on designers to hand images back and forth. Check out this article from Apple:

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3712

Be excellent</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, just dropping this in since I didn&#8217;t see anyone mention it:</p>
<p>Snow Leopard has switched it&#8217;s gamma to 2.2 from the previous 1.8. Windows has always used 2.2 as well as a lot of post production software. Apple has held out for many years, but finally conformed to make it easier on designers to hand images back and forth. Check out this article from Apple:</p>
<p><a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3712" rel="nofollow">http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3712</a></p>
<p>Be excellent</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Rayburn</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9295</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Rayburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cabel thank you, this is a lovely article...

I&#039;ve noticed however, that a lot of the comments on this blog post talk about correcting the way OS X 10.6 handles ICNS rendering [or] how Photoshop (in particular) outputs images for the purpose of using ICNS files.

While both are valid points of interest with regards to the original post (I cannot justify calling them &quot;arguments&quot; as neither are); both fall short of addressing the true nature of the issue that Cabel has written about. Which is quite simple: That ICNS files look washed out when: they are generated on OS X 10.6 (regardless of the image tool you use), you receive them (perhaps from a person that has made them without thinking about or noticing the color profile issue), or you are give them to someone else (who is also running OS X 10.6, and, who has not made any changes to their system&#039;s global default color profile).

Thus, when tackling this issue myself, some many months ago, I devised a slightly more universal way to handle this problem.

The solution I came up with was to simply use OS X 10.6&#039;s built-in Preview app. 

Here is what I do, regardless of what app I use to make an ICNS or who gives me an ICNS (if it is obvious the file given looks washed out). 

Open the ICNS file in question in Preview (baring the ICNS file has some kind of &quot;icon/image mask [layers, usually 16x16 or 32x32 that are black]&quot;). From Preview&#039;s file menu do an Edit &gt; Select All command, to grab all the layers (however, you can&#039;t save your product if the ICNS in question contains any &quot;icon/image masks&quot;). Next from the file menu do a Tools &gt; Assign Profile... &gt; ColorSync Profile: sRGB IEC61966-2.1 command. You should notice all the lawyers darken slightly after setting the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color profile. Finally do a File &gt; Save &gt; Replace command [or] File &gt; Save As &gt; Name command (if you want to compare the old ICNS you originally made or were given side-by-side with your OS X 10.6 color corrected version).

I&#039;ve found this method to be incredibly simple, quick, and easy to use. I hope others do too.

Furthermore: Another enterprising individual out there could take my method a step further and build an app with Automator or AppleScript Editor (to name a few), to take the whole process I&#039;ve just explained and wrap into a nice little drag-&amp;-drop to the Dock app.


Good luck to all&#039;ya&#039;all. And many thanks once again to Cabel of Panic for this most excellent blog article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cabel thank you, this is a lovely article&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed however, that a lot of the comments on this blog post talk about correcting the way OS X 10.6 handles ICNS rendering [or] how Photoshop (in particular) outputs images for the purpose of using ICNS files.</p>
<p>While both are valid points of interest with regards to the original post (I cannot justify calling them &#8220;arguments&#8221; as neither are); both fall short of addressing the true nature of the issue that Cabel has written about. Which is quite simple: That ICNS files look washed out when: they are generated on OS X 10.6 (regardless of the image tool you use), you receive them (perhaps from a person that has made them without thinking about or noticing the color profile issue), or you are give them to someone else (who is also running OS X 10.6, and, who has not made any changes to their system&#8217;s global default color profile).</p>
<p>Thus, when tackling this issue myself, some many months ago, I devised a slightly more universal way to handle this problem.</p>
<p>The solution I came up with was to simply use OS X 10.6&#8242;s built-in Preview app. </p>
<p>Here is what I do, regardless of what app I use to make an ICNS or who gives me an ICNS (if it is obvious the file given looks washed out). </p>
<p>Open the ICNS file in question in Preview (baring the ICNS file has some kind of &#8220;icon/image mask [layers, usually 16x16 or 32x32 that are black]&#8220;). From Preview&#8217;s file menu do an Edit &gt; Select All command, to grab all the layers (however, you can&#8217;t save your product if the ICNS in question contains any &#8220;icon/image masks&#8221;). Next from the file menu do a Tools &gt; Assign Profile&#8230; &gt; ColorSync Profile: sRGB IEC61966-2.1 command. You should notice all the lawyers darken slightly after setting the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 color profile. Finally do a File &gt; Save &gt; Replace command [or] File &gt; Save As &gt; Name command (if you want to compare the old ICNS you originally made or were given side-by-side with your OS X 10.6 color corrected version).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found this method to be incredibly simple, quick, and easy to use. I hope others do too.</p>
<p>Furthermore: Another enterprising individual out there could take my method a step further and build an app with Automator or AppleScript Editor (to name a few), to take the whole process I&#8217;ve just explained and wrap into a nice little drag-&amp;-drop to the Dock app.</p>
<p>Good luck to all&#8217;ya&#8217;all. And many thanks once again to Cabel of Panic for this most excellent blog article.</p>
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		<title>By: Myoo</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9291</link>
		<dc:creator>Myoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt Kenyon

Thanks for that tip! It works perfectly.

I&#039;ve always struggled to understand colour management (Who hasn&#039;t?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt Kenyon</p>
<p>Thanks for that tip! It works perfectly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always struggled to understand colour management (Who hasn&#8217;t?)</p>
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		<title>By: Morten</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9254</link>
		<dc:creator>Morten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Devin You are not alone. Depending on the software from Adobe, I get mixed results between PS, FW and AI. Most of the time colours are washed out when saving for web.

As for tip on what to do, this article + what @ricky said seems to be the key. Although it requires a calibration tool + software. I haven&#039;t gotten any, cause I doubt it will solve the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Devin You are not alone. Depending on the software from Adobe, I get mixed results between PS, FW and AI. Most of the time colours are washed out when saving for web.</p>
<p>As for tip on what to do, this article + what @ricky said seems to be the key. Although it requires a calibration tool + software. I haven&#8217;t gotten any, cause I doubt it will solve the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
		<link>http://www.panic.com/blog/2010/06/saving-icons-for-snow-leopard/#comment-9240</link>
		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Todd, correct of course. sRGB is the only color-space suitable for screen-design. I didn&#039;t say you &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt;, but you could ;-) 
There&#039;s another problem as well: A lot of people just set photoshop to the standard &#039;prepress&#039; setting. That will trigger Photoshop to use Adobe RGB. Now if you open a file without an embedded ICC-tag (just about every picture from the internet) Photoshop will automatically show it in your default RGB color space. You will see much brighter colors as a result. Unless when you save for web. Than it will convert to sRGB...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Todd, correct of course. sRGB is the only color-space suitable for screen-design. I didn&#8217;t say you <i>should</i>, but you could <img src='http://www.panic.com/blog/wp-content/themes/panic/images/icon_wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
There&#8217;s another problem as well: A lot of people just set photoshop to the standard &#8216;prepress&#8217; setting. That will trigger Photoshop to use Adobe RGB. Now if you open a file without an embedded ICC-tag (just about every picture from the internet) Photoshop will automatically show it in your default RGB color space. You will see much brighter colors as a result. Unless when you save for web. Than it will convert to sRGB&#8230;</p>
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